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PostPosted: August 21st, 2007, 1:53 pm 
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I am attaching an imp file for your reference. The issue is the order of things coming to front.

The help file implies that "Go to a specific Frame" will bring that frame to the front, and it does in most cases. However, frame five does not come to the front until one has visited some other frame. The video plays, but is covered by another frame.

I've tried moving it up the chain and that works, but then another frame is covered. It appears that the ordering hierarchy is not working here.

Some of you may recall I was working on this a year or so ago and finally produced a working sim. This is an improvement on that with much smoother reverse video action. In spite of being told that video isn't easy to reverse, AVI or any format using discrete, complete frames is nothing more than a series of pictures with a clock. With the right orders, they go backwards as cleanly as forward. It is still my wish that DW would provide a routine that will not only reverse video, but provide proportional speed control. The need within my company for cranes, traveling blocks, drawworks, and many other simulations that can best be done with reversible, proportionally controllable video is very large. Once some of these things are seen by others I predict many other users will put it to work. Actually, the only problem with the routine I am using is I cannot see how it could be modified for proportional speed control. If any of you REAL programmers see a way I'll happilly see to it that you get paid for it...

Regards, and thanks in advance,
Dave


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PostPosted: August 21st, 2007, 2:17 pm 
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After mucking with this all day yesterday I hit it with fresh thoughts today. The effect is as I described, but the cause has nothing to do with what is in front.

It appears the video is showing the last frame rather than the first. I see nothing in the settings to cause this. If I move over another item or two and return, it is reset to the first frame. It is NOT set to start automatically.

I am obviously overlooking something but I cannot see it...

Fresh eyes?

Dave

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To add to the last post...

If I start the pub and them move across the levers left to right in the center position, the 4th from the left goes to the correct frame, but at the end rather than the beginning of the clip. If I continue to the 6th lever and return, it then jumps to the first frame.

Scratching my head...can not think of ANYTHING that would cause that.

Dave

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PostPosted: August 21st, 2007, 7:07 pm 
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Dave,
I downloaded the imp, but no resources. I doubt I'll be able to help, but it's worth a try


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PostPosted: August 21st, 2007, 7:47 pm 
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Resources are 130mb...think the moderators might object. :twisted:

I know that is a problem. I've definitely verified that the issue is that the video is initially opening on its last frame, then flipping to the first frame once I've returned to it. Dang strange and the only one that is doing that.

As I said, I am scratching my head, going bald. GOT to be something I am missing...

Dave

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PostPosted: September 2nd, 2007, 11:11 am 
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Check this out, as a remote possibility.

http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx ... Windows-XP

or you might search 'last frame' here. http://www.videoforums.co.uk/index.php


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PostPosted: September 4th, 2007, 4:27 pm 
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Thanks, but not the issue. For one thing, MPEG files don't work at all due to the nature of the MPEG compression scheme. You can only do this effectively with formats having discrete images for each frame.

Still working on it with DW...

Dave

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