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 Post subject: OPUS 7 Early Question
PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 2:12 pm 
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Flash features in V6 vs V7

The NEW flash for V7 does it allow varriables to work on flash web site ????


I am confused by the explanation of these features ....could someone explain in a better way that DW does...Can i finally store variables in data files and have a flash page refelct those changes via the web....or am I totally not getting this

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Hi Al,

Not used much, but I can tell you this:

Dynamic variables has been added to Opus 7 and therefore you can now update values on screen that would have previously been static. This works and I've used it.

The access to variables outside of the flash file are always possible using web data but you now have access to pass though commands up-to ActionScript 2.0. This means that you can type 'some' flash commands directly into the publication and they will work. This is quite straightforward, although whether there is a working command to write external data in AS2.0 - I don't know.

You also have access to the Flash Shared Object which can be accessed by other applications giving better communication between your SWF and external data. This, according to the help, sound a little more involved but definitely possible.

Hope it helps.

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mackavi wrote:
Hi Al,

Not used much, but I can tell you this:

Dynamic variables has been added to Opus 7 and therefore you can now update values on screen that would have previously been static. This works and I've used it.

The access to variables outside of the flash file are always possible using web data but you now have access to pass though commands up-to ActionScript 2.0. This means that you can type 'some' flash commands directly into the publication and they will work. This is quite straightforward, although whether there is a working command to write external data in AS2.0 - I don't know.

You also have access to the Flash Shared Object which can be accessed by other applications giving better communication between your SWF and external data. This, according to the help, sound a little more involved but definitely possible.

Hope it helps.

Mack


Dam its been awhile Mack,

Ok so with this we could have a Flash file that actually allows for txt input and will display it ' IN REAL TIME " asa flash web page.......

What i'm getting at Mack is this a faster/easier way to handle data on a web site........? ,. I found OPUS very confusing with the posting of web data. I Went over to Alpha 5 software to fill my needs and although i havent in anyway mastered their software , their data base tie in is very very easy.

I so want the features and the knowledge to produce WEB driven pages that cant easily post and reflect data in them. This is almost expected now as basic and i still have trouble understanding scripting LOL....

I will see the light sometime soon as i haven't given up and 1 of my sons is taking a Desktop publishing course this September....... so i'll have to study even hared just to help him out ( smile )..

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That it has...

The short and sweet answer is no. While some of the flash features are very practical and easy to implement, I think the new pass though and shared object are for those more experienced with programming.

I've no doubt that you could build such applications with Opus but you'd probably have to return to your much (un)loved post web data.

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PostPosted: January 19th, 2010, 9:25 pm 
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I too have a project to do like this.

From what I can see, it would be best if I used XML. Maybe this will help you too?

In my project, I think I'm going to get my opus generated program (standalone and flash) to call an xml page (on my server) for the results. (The XML page is in fact a php doc that calls a database and returns the results in xml format).

I can pass variables to this xml page in the url, for example:
test.xml?var1=yy&var2=xx
and I can genereate the xml page...

I've seen a few posts in this forum that helps with this - I just haven't got it to work yet :roll:

Doing it this way means the data in the app can be updated either on a timed basis, or when the user clicks an update function. It also means the web page doesn't need to be reloaded/refeshed to get an updated.


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jezjones29 wrote:
I too have a project to do like this.

From what I can see, it would be best if I used XML. Maybe this will help you too?

In my project, I think I'm going to get my opus generated program (standalone and flash) to call an xml page (on my server) for the results. (The XML page is in fact a php doc that calls a database and returns the results in xml format).

I can pass variables to this xml page in the url, for example:
test.xml?var1=yy&var2=xx
and I can genereate the xml page...

I've seen a few posts in this forum that helps with this - I just haven't got it to work yet :roll:

Doing it this way means the data in the app can be updated either on a timed basis, or when the user clicks an update function. It also means the web page doesn't need to be reloaded/refeshed to get an updated.



Very Cool,

Thats what i am wondering about this NEw V7 , if it's like I understand it can do just that./...update variables in real time.......with minimum work onmy end LOL


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I am following this thread with interest, but have nothing to directly contribute just now (I am too much a beginner in Flex, and have not done any web-based Opus work).

But I went off on a 'tangent'... searching to gain some background. Rather than 'distract here', I've posted some links over in the Lounge section. Web-based or web-related development alternatives
viewtopic.php?p=17375#17375

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Lar_123 wrote:
I am following this thread with interest, but have nothing to directly contribute just now (I am too much a beginner in Flex, and have not done any web-based Opus work).

But I went off on a 'tangent'... searching to gain some background. Rather than 'distract here', I've posted some links over in the Lounge section. Web-based or web-related development alternatives
viewtopic.php?p=17375#17375

Cheers.



LOl Lar

I am still gonna make that gaming Application 1 day ( Big Smile )...

I will get it done 1 way or another ;)

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mackavi wrote:
That it has...

The short and sweet answer is no. While some of the flash features are very practical and easy to implement, I think the new pass though and shared object are for those more experienced with programming.

I've no doubt that you could build such applications with Opus but you'd probably have to return to your much (un)loved post web data.

Mack


Always Raining on my Parade LOL

Thanks Mack

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Has anyone used postwebdata to communicate between a local flex publication and an online script? I can upload the pub and get it working from the server (using a local server address e.g. data.html) but I can't get it working from a local page on my PC (using the address http://www...).

I am creating the flex pub in order to work with Macs, but I want to be able to install it locally whilst communicating with the online server. It has lots of music which makes the files large, so I would prefer to offer a local install than throttle bandwidth.

Thanks if you can help.
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You have to change the flash security settings.

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You're the man Mack. Thanks.

General note: I didn't get the security alert giving me the option of allowing the transfer of data, as suggested would be the case by Adobe. I had to visit the Adobe website (page below) and add the folder location to the security settings allowed list. It is a drag if customers also have to do this on each PC. Back to the drawing board maybe.

http://www.macromedia.com/support/docum ... ger04.html

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dan1 wrote:
It is a drag if customers also have to do this on each PC. Back to the drawing board maybe.


Yes they will, defeats the purpose of the security if the designer could bypass ;-).

As for the missing message, I think it pop ups once not every time.

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