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 Post subject: Copying a text object from one page to another
PostPosted: March 3rd, 2006, 4:57 pm 
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Hello,
I have a text object that is partially on the page canvas and partially off. When I copy it and paste it on to another page, it pastes it to where it's completely on the page canvas. I have "offset pasting" disabled in Options, so I don't know why it's doing that. Any ideas?

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Pasting will always attempt to keep objects within the page (if the object is larger than the page then this is obviously not possible). It is intended to prevent pasted objects getting "lost".

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PostPosted: March 3rd, 2006, 7:26 pm 
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Duncan Lilly wrote:
Pasting will always attempt to keep objects within the page (if the object is larger than the page then this is obviously not possible). It is intended to prevent pasted objects getting "lost".


Thanks for the reply.

It doesn't do it in version 2.81; in that version it puts it exactly where it was on the original page.

My personal opinion is that in future patches, it should go back to the way it was in 2.81. Otherwise, the program is basically telling you "Yes, I know that you want it halfway off the page, but I don't think you should have it halfway off the page, so I'm not going to let you do it." Then you have to go and set the coordinates manually.


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The problem is that people complained about the old behaviour as well! It's one of those situations where we can't please everyone. At lest this way round you can't "lose" pasted objects.

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Duncan Lilly wrote:
The problem is that people complained about the old behaviour as well! It's one of those situations where we can't please everyone. At lest this way round you can't "lose" pasted objects.


The way it is now can create a lot of headache and extra work. Imagine that you have 30 pages already done and you decided you want to add an object that is halfway off the page. You have to copy that object to every page and then manually reposition each instance.

What I don't understand is how an object that is halfway on a page can get "lost". You can see the half that's on the page. As for objects that are totally off the page, if they can see it to copy it, why would they have a problem finding it once it's pasted? And why would they want it in a different location on the second page than it was at one the first page anyway?


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PostPosted: March 4th, 2006, 1:07 am 
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Hi Mike,

I have Opus Pro XE 5.5 and it pastes "off-screen" fine for me. It will even paste objects totally in the canvas area. (So I am not sure if Duncan is referring to 5.5?)

Also copying from the component Gallery will paste in the canvas area correctly.

Have you tried using "CTRL-ALT-V" (keyboard short-cut) which pastes objects in their original position? (and not the default offset) ;)

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PostPosted: March 4th, 2006, 1:46 am 
Hi Mike

I've just completed a large text-based pub where each page has 4 different sized text objects, each with different text properties. The exact placement of each object is critical.

The technique I have used for a long time now is this:

1. Create empty objects exactly where I want them to appear on each page.
2. Assign the properties to each, but do not add any text to the objects.
3. Give each object a meaningful name, such as "page_title", "para_1", etc.
4. If necessary, make a new component gallery.
5. Copy each object to that gallery.
6. When I need to use an object, copy it back from the component gallery.

Doing this places the object in its origin position, every time.

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Ray and Steve,
Thanks very much for suggesting the components. That is definitely the way to go. :D
Mike


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