V6 probs with Vista

ad hoc · **Posted:** August 24th, 2007, 9:47 pm

I agree with Paul.
I don't think Vista the greatest os possible, but in two years there will be so many machines sold with Vista (SP2

) that you cannot ignore this part of the market.
The main bulk of my pubs are for collegestudents who will run this as part of an educational package on their private computers. I have no say over the os they will have installed, except that it can't be a Mac. But I'm sure that if a new pub will not run under vista, it will be of no use for my clients.

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Ps CS2 runs fine on my machine.

Sentosa · **Posted:** August 25th, 2007, 3:52 am

I agree with everyone who has commented on the inevitability of Vista.

I'm in perhaps a slightly different position that many of you.

I'm retired and do not use Opus as a means of generating income. In that I am fortunate because that takes the pressure off me.

I'm happy to believe that many of my XP pubs (which use pretty basic technologies) will/should work under Visa, even though I develop them under XP.

I have absolutely no intention of getting into the hassles associated with supporting problems that might occur on some Vista installations. That's why I no longer list Vista as an approved platform. (In fact I might consider making this more obvious on my website.)

As I've said elsewhere, I'm happy to let prospective Vista users download a trial and test it on their installations. If it works and they are happy, they can buy a full copy, but they do so knowing that I do not support Vista problems. If my pubs don't work, it's no skin off my nose if they don't buy!

While I've been writing this, I've been wondering if I should extend this type of OS restriction to all my pubs. After all, everyone can try before they buy. I know this is not the most commercial of decision, but it just might suit me.

Tarantoga · **Posted:** August 27th, 2007, 8:27 am

I think everyone can handle this like he or she likes.

But there is no doubt that Vista is the upcoming OS and a lot of people already use it. No Customer will accept a Vista restriction for a new product. So I think it is urgent to solve these problems rather than to think of telling customers that they will get no support on Vista machines.

T.

Sentosa · **Posted:** August 27th, 2007, 10:23 am

Tarantoga wrote:

No Customer will accept a Vista restriction for a new product.

That statement is not quite correct. I have many customers who have tried my XP pubs on their Vista machines, and after finding that they worked without any issues, were happy to buy the full version, knowing that I would not enter into Vista-related issues. I will support problems that I have caused, regardless of what OS they run on.

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So I think it is urgent to solve these problems rather than to think of telling customers that they will get no support on Vista machines.

I could not agree more. However, look briefly at reality. As end users we exert a small degree of influence over DW, and absolutely none over MS. Look back over previous issues that arose in earlier versions of Windows and Opus. Admittedly, my experience with Windows goes back only to v3, and with Opus to v2006. However, every version of those programs has died with unresolved issues which have continued to show up in subsequent releases.

I'm sure that the same applies to most well-established applications. That being the case, I hope we might see some fixes in Vista because it is really what controls things, but I'm not holding my breath,

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I think everyone can handle this like he or she likes.

Again, you are so right in what you say. I've chosen a way with which I am comfortable.

I wish you all the best in your efforts to bring MS round to your way of thinking. :roll:

Paul Harris · **Posted:** August 30th, 2007, 8:53 am

There is no doubt Vista's time will come. There is equally no doubt we will continue to find things to improve in Opus, especially when running under Vista.

BUT Vista is new and has some teething troubles, drivers are still not mature. Given that Vista is meant to have an XP emulation mode and even that doesn't help resolve the issues which some are having with Opus, suggests the problems are not to be laid wholly at our door even if all the other software is running fine. Opus did not have these problems on XP and still doesn't. During testing customers have found Opus-Vista improves when graphics drivers are updated.

Bottom line - we are continuing to test Opus on Vista as it evolves (with the new service pack), and as it becomes clearer where we must make changes or implement work arounds we shall do so. We will release maintenance releases free of charge as usual.

In the meantime - if you are having problems with Opus under Vista please note. Posting a generalised gripe here doesn't help. Send us a support email and make sure you detail whether the computer is dual boot, an upgraded machine or a "native" Vista machine. that way we can manage the detail, track the problems and ultimately do something about it.

Thanks. Hope this helps.

Paul Harris

demofred · **Posted:** September 1st, 2007, 1:17 pm

I received this information from a newsletter. Thought it might be of interest regarding VISTA:

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Vista SP1 and W2K8: First Quarter 2008

Redmond finally confirmed this week the plans for Vista SP1 and WinXP SP3. The first service pack for Vista will be out sometime in the first quarter of next year, along with SP3 for XP. The first major Vista update will contain a bunch of tweaks to speed up the OS and fix reliability issues. Early beta testers will get the bits in a few weeks and for the real diehards, there is a leaked copy available via bittorrent. I would recommend against that though. WinXP SP3 is a roll-up of previously released updates for XP. It includes security updates, hotfixes and out-of-band releases.

Do not expect any major new end user features in either SP. And if Vista is still new to you, it was built to better accept updates and can get them "slip-streamed in" so you will not -need- any major service packs any more. What it will contain is support for some new hardware types. They typically roll out these betas to increasingly large groups, and this time is no exception. A little later in the year, SP1 will be available via MSDN and TechNet subscriptions.

We can expect Vista SP1 to come out at the same time as Windows Server 2008, they pushed that one back a bit. Reason? They were not done killing all the bugs quite yet. "It's like a brisket. It just needs a little more time to bake." is what they said. W2K8 Beta 3 has had some 300K downloads, and Redmond is dogfooding it on more and more production systems in-house and at customers. The delay does not seem to affect Microsoft's February 27 launch festivities in Los Angeles. And so what if it is late, no one is going to mess with their environment late Q4 anyway. More about the Vista SP1 in this snazzy looking VistaBlog:
http://www.wservernews.com/3SA5YE/070903-Vista-SP1

Tarantoga · **Posted:** September 5th, 2007, 9:37 am

Since the problem that I cannot use Opus6 with Vista is still unsolved I run it now under XP without problems.

During my searches belonging the Vista problem (with Google) I found that not only Opus6 itself but also the Plexus plugin is affected by this problem. Some users are not able to install it because of the same Opus-Vista-DLL problem.

So I think it is still necessary to solve this issue anyhow.

T.

Reemski · **Posted:** October 5th, 2007, 4:55 pm

I also have a spankin brand new Vista PC with Opus v6, also with the new screen refresh defects..

This computer also has a Nvidea video card (maybe a compatibility problem), but i have done some searching to solve the problem.

When you disable some eye-candy in Vista, it seems that opus start working fine again.
You have to disable the option : "Enable desktop composition"
in the menu: "Control Panel > Performance Information and tools > Adjust visual effects"

Maybe this helps.

Reemski · **Posted:** June 2nd, 2008, 5:14 pm

And another tip:

For those who seem to lose the mouse cursor during the preview of a publication using Vista:

Go to "Control Panel > Mouse > Pointers Tab"
And select (None) under Scheme.

Normally the Aero scheme is used, but then in Preview mode you don't see a mouse cursor.

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