Digital Workshop

Hello
Strangely, the programme I have spent many hours on in Opus
(latest version)
has suddenly lost its Objects list but the programme still
runs.
I reinstalled with the web upgrade but still no joy.
Any ideas please?
It's difficult to edit objects when you can't see them.
Hmmm - very odd - added a blank page and now its back.

OK! Problem solved when I was fiddling.

Now why does the thing update thumbnails everytime I load it?
Cheers

[Lar EDIT: comment removed]

If you have recently installed an update of Opus, and IMO did not use the default path... funny little nuances could occur. The rule of thumb I've used is normally an 'overinstall' of the same revision major number is allowed/works. Moving from say 6.x to 7.x, seems to warrant a full, new install. I recommend using the default directory the Installer presets.

Most of what you describe is rather vague. I assume all of this is on the same PC machine you originally had developed on.

A REAL SIMPLE DISCIPLINE is that when you first open an OLD opus Pub with a new version of the OpusPro program, ... do a fresh Save As with a new name. Maybe even into a new Directory so you know what's old and what's new. Part of my thinking here is that when it goes into a new name or a new directory, all of the resources get duplicated and dedicated to the new/revised Pub. Just sayin'.

Hi Larry

Thanks for the response.

Since I told it to add a page it's behaving itself.

I always install to the default folder having had silly experiences in the past.

It's been developed on the latest incarnation without problems - except copy and paste
which is only successful if I c/p up to 3 pages.

Kind regards

So Mike,

Seems like you've stumbled upon some oddity with Opus there. You should maybe email DW support with some description of how you encountered the problem. In your original post you mention losing the 'objects list'. I take it that objects were still visible and selectable in the workspace? You could try toggling the visibility of the Opus Organizer, using the appropriate hotkey -- see if that makes any difference.

I can't think of anything in the Windows OS that would enter into consideration as the problem. My Vista machine uses a feature called 'Ready Boost', using an SD Card mainly for caching I think. Something like that could introduce a glitch?

If it happen again, you might try doing a Save or Save As first, then trying again. Good luck.

Hi Larry

The objects list was blank but anyway it's working now.

Kind regards

Hmmm

Still having fun with this programme I've put together.
It uses many bmps, jpgs and pngs.

Sometimes (not every time) when I reload, some of the pages are loaded minus
the pictures. - the whole point of the programme!

I then have to scroll down the thumbnails; double click on the pages minus picture which then appears. When I click on the next page the formerly empty (of picture) thumbnail updates.

This is not a problem until I try to publish when I'm told the picture can't be loaded
and the publication then contains errors.

When I do a browse I notice that the windows 7 icons on my file list are black squares.

I exit the programme, fire up again and everything is fine including the icons.

I watch carefully when saving and sometimes I don't get the saving thumbnails bar at the bottom.

All very strange. I have 8Gbs of memory and and an AMD 3.2 (x4) processor.

So I'm not short of power. I've checked and checked and can't find anything wrong with
the machine - including viruses.

So............

I can live with it but it wastes a tremendous amount of time.

Midi files still cut short by about 480 clicks. So I have to add a few dead bars at the end.

By the way I've cured the speed problem with publishing.The programme was
defaulted to compress at maximum (Tells me it's slow on the choices!! )

Any ideas anyone.

Kind regards

Beside the age old, it might be corrupt in some way...

1. Are your images optimised?

2. Where is the publication / resources kept? A network drive, normal hdd - can you try on a faster disk?

3. You could try moving the imp and resources to a clean location and remapping it all. Do backup before messing aroung with this though!!

mack

Hi Mack

Thanks for taking the time to help. I have a large drive C (main one of course) and keep everything there.
The machine is just over a year old and hispec.

The images (music) are created in Sibelius and then improved attached and reduced so that they are not so
large. They are consolidated in Opus and saved as used.

I've noticed that the "Saving thumbnails" does not appear every time when I save the programme and then I
have to wait next time I load the programme whilst the thumbnails are also updated.

Checking down the thumbnails I find that the occasional file is missed. I haven't checked what format the missing
ones take but most of them are .png. There are some .jpgs and some .bmps - I'll check that out and see if there is
a recurrence. I double click the partly blank thumbnail and the complete page appears. I then go to another thumbnail,
double click; the page appears and the previous thumbnail is corrected in the page display column.

I tried erasing the the thumbnail data file and had Opus recreate a new one but the problem still recurrs.

I've been working on this for over a year now with help from Larry. I must have wasted many hours with this
strange discrepancy. Ho hum. I guess it's something to do with Microsft again.

Regards

I'll throw out, for consideration, several random ideas.
-- avoid having bilinear resampling turned on (whereever that is.... image properties? or is it some Opus Option/Preference setting -- I forget)
-- is it possible you have your active Scripts and some of your Standard Actions stepping on one another... in other words, vying for priority or otherwise overlapping too much.
>>>maybe inserting some well-placed wait(0) commands in your Scripts, and Delay 0.001 actions -- might restore some order.

-- Have you tried the features of the Resource Manager? First see if any resources are flagged (on their icons). You can also fix Paths to resources, Consolidate Resources, or even execute a Rebuild of resources.


In the past, I have experienced some weird little problems with cut&paste. One symptom... in the Organizer Tree, I had duplicate listing of certain objects (and sometimes click-select not working... also, decided to just delete ONE of the two sets. (maybe I made the 'selection' by selecting all objects and then unselecting individually to leave specific ones there to Delete). Also, with copy&paste, I've had Opus crash.

I finally decided to avoid copying chapters (rather create a new chapter, and then paste Pages or discrete objects into existing pages).
I also avoid copying multiple pages.
I also make sure I Save the Pub before any major copying.
Lastly, I try to use Right-Click, Drag, and either "Insert Into" or "Copy Into". (versus Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V) My experience is that it is a 'cleaner', 'surer' method.

If I understand, you now have a new machine and OS, versus what you started developing on. I would think Vista migrating to Win7 should not be a problem. But as posted elsewhere here, I've found some buggy-ness or worse with Pubs I brought over from WinXP onto Vista32. After some trial and error, I learned how to bring them over reliably. So it is a disclipline I've used from then on whenever moving working projects from one system to another.

Good luck.

ps. There are a few other things you can try, but they would be time-consuming and would represent kind of a 'long-shot' thinking they might actually find something or fix something.
---> as a test, make a new Pub and try using all of the images from one Page of the current Pub... in a new Page of the new Pub (building new triggers, actions, etc...)
---> you could reconstruct the old Pub into a brand new Pub, where I would create the Pub and set all of its properties to match the original.
Then add new Chapters and "map" all of the original chapter properties to each of the new Chapters.
And of course add NEW Page objects... also setting their properties to match each of the original page's properties.

Last 2 steps (I think):
* In the organizer tree, Select all of the object on one Page... then Rt-Clk and "Copy Into" the new Page in the newly built Pub. (note we're not copying the whole Page Object itself)
* Export the Publication VARIABLES. Export each of the original Page's VARIABLES. Then Import these in the right places in the new Pub.

Whew! Not something I care to do until I am really desparate.

Hi Larry

Thanks for all your time, trouble and observations.

I'm busy with tomorrow's concert at the moment so I have scanned your comments and I am merely
acknowledging your kindness and help.

Have a look here:
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/Evening ... 32369.html

One initial observation; the whole project has been designed in Windows 7 so I haven't had a problem with
migration from a different OS. That's one less.

The model I have is HPE-590uk - Intel i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40Ghz (8 CPUs)
with memory 8192MB RAM and DirectX 11 - so the machine's powerful enough for most things.

I now have a "working" programme of some 1000 pieces for performance to which I will add de temps en temp.
When I have a bit more time I'll pursue your advice. Thanks once again.

Kind regards

It's a myth - Four cores with HT. A veritable beast nonetheless.

mack

That's what it says. Are they lying at HP??
Cheers

...oh well...if that's what it says...

mack