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I constructed a page with a video object with music. It only plays when the mouse is clicked.

When this page displayed, the music may start to play and the menu buttons may not work.

It works if the browser has been cached for this page, If the browser has not been cached, the movie may start to play and the menu buttons may not work.

Please test this out. Remember to "click for movie" to see the page that has this problem. Clear you cache and the problem appears - this is consistant.

http://www.eiproject.net/tutorials/opus ... s_cam.html

Browsers: IE / Firefox

Rick

Hi Rick

I can replicate your problem in both IE6 and Firefox.

I can't suggest a solution, but at least you now know that it isn't unique to your machine.

Rick,

When I go to the page nothing happens. When I click the Play button the music starts
and so does the video. Is this what is supposed to happen? To help track problems like
this down it is best to know exactly what you expect to see as well as what you are seeing.

Regards

Brenden

The video is set to only play when the the play button is clicked, I thought I made that clear.

The page does not consistanly work - the video may start to play when the page is displayed - it does not wait untill you click on the "Play" button.

I wil give you screen shots and upload the Opus file if you like.

The screen shots I will upload so that all may see them.

Rick

It works 100% of the time for me in Firefox under XP.

What is the specification of your PC? Perhaps it is some sort of timing fault. Are there any other actions on the page that can cause the video to play?

I really appreciate all who are helping. Yes Duncan, I can duplicate this on other machines. Hit the back button then clear the cache. This happens with consistently.

Please visit to see the screen captures.

http://www.eiproject.net/review/opus/op ... oblem.html

Rick

A little more info on what happens at my end.

This experience is the same in both IE6 and Firefox.

1. When I first connect, the music starts and runs for about 5-6 seconds. There is some evidence that the video might be doing something, but the whole is experience does not last long enough to verify this.

2. If I leave the page, and return, nothing happens until a click the Play button. At this point all seems to be OK.

3. If I clean out the cache and open the page again, I am back to step 1.

Note: This is unlikely, but consider this. When The page first appears, the buttons appear first, followed by the text which takes some seconds to finish displaying. Could clicking the Play button while the text displays load cause a conflict?

I know that there is no logic for this to be a problem, but when nothing else is obvious, who knows?

Rick

I managed to replicate this problem in IE running under XP. You're right it doesn't occur when the cache is not cleared, but definitely occurs when the cache is cleared. I tried clearing Tools > Internet options... > Advanced check boxes for playing animation, sound and video in web pages, but this had no effect either. I cleared the checkboxes one at a time to no effect on the problem. There is still a short burst of video and sound when the page opens. What about loading the video AFTER the page has loaded? I seem to remember a Forum post about this or a similar problem some time ago, but the memory gets hazier as I get older! Can't think of anything else to do other than ask DW. Good luck.

pc_amethyst

Duncan, Ray and Pc_amethyst,

Thank you for assisting in trying to resolved this problem. I will try your suggestions and hopefully DW will find a solution.

I will post any results upon experimenting

Best regards,

Rick

Same problem here and here is what is going on.

You have a movie and the instruction set (buttons). The movie is made to play upon showing but the instruction set is telling it to wait, stop, pause, etc. The movie is downloading first and starting to play as soon as some if it downloads. When the instruction set downloads it then tells the movie it is NOT suppose to play yet. On my fast machine and high bandwidth only 1/2 second plays before it downloads the instruction set and it tells it to wait. Once all the parts are in cache the instruction set comes up as soon as the movie and nothing plays. Reverse the order in the page so the intruction set comes in first. If that makes sence.

Update: I just did some more experimenting and the above in NOT right but thought I'd leave it there for grins.

If I leave the instruction set (the part with the buttons) in the cache and just delete the actual movie it still tries to start the movie. (so the instruction set is already there and not downloading later) Same problem where I hear 1/2 second. Somehow the movie is playing untill it is all downloaded and then the instruction set can tell it to wait. The movie needs to be made so it will not play untill told to do so.

Here is the file zipped:

I have been unsuccessful in trying to make this work.

http://www.eiproject.net/downloads/

Rick

Hello All !

I am not an expert on Flex but I have always had a problem when playing swf movies within an Opus publication. With older versions of Flex I have found that I had to wait until the swf publication had completely downloaded before the Opus script would work correctly. With this version I get the impression that it is the Opus swf that needs to download first completely before it works completely, rather than the movie.

If you look at this page, you will see that it incorporates a swf movie (encoded using Wildform software) within an Opus publication. The movie is 2548 ko while the Opus swf is only 127 ko (there are several pages). If the cache is empty, the movie will start to play immediately, then restarts a few seconds later (presumably when the Opus swf has downloaded and begins its instructions). I have a 7 Mo DSL connection so this delay will obviously vary according to connection speed.

The way around the problem I guess would be to get the movie downloaded 'silently' or 'invisably' somewhere and then show it.

Or does anyone have any other ideas ?? !

(I am using the evaluation version of the Opus Pro 5 (not XE))

http://david.moxon.free.fr/gaulle.html


Here is an example of the older version of Flex with Opus 2.81 and how the 'independant' swf movie could interfere with Opus. At the time DW said that Opus did not support separate swf files. If you click on the first link, you will probably find that the buttons block when the video is shown so that it is not longer to advance in the program.

http://david.moxon.free.fr/vcwashsecondload56.html

But, if you clear the cache again, and go to this second link, I got the movie to download 'secretly' in a normal html page and when it had downloaded to the cache fully, provided a button for the user to continue to the Opus program. This time the buttons worked correctly and allowed the user to continue in the program as intended.

http://david.moxon.free.fr/vcwashfirstload56.html