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PostPosted: December 24th, 2007, 8:33 am 
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Thanks very much for some very interesting pointers.
I'm still trying to find what is causing the problem. At the moment I have Opus working again. I will wait and see what happens. I have one publication I know causes the problem, so I will avoid that and see if 'normal' operation resumes....assuming it does, then I'll start investigating the problem application to see if I can narrow it down.
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Sandy,

Good luck with that.

I found another way to 'cause' the error ("...check spelling and capitalization..."). Put a string where a number is required, or worse... vice versa.


BTW, I went into my Control Panel (Tosh Hrdw settings) and changed the Intel speedstep settings. After several hard boots and a couple into safe mode, I set it back to 'automatic' and the thing's 'behaving' better now. (I had had some Opus shutdown glitches ....probably me Exiting Opus then quitting Windows too soon. Also had some graphics refresh nonsense.)
Try Intel Processor ID Utility. (mine wouldn't show top speed until I did the above... now it's consistent at spec 2.2GHz)

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An update to this problem.
I never did find what causes the particular problem, but I have found if I create a publication with a script clock (copied from the help files). It triggers the 'function not found' error, which then happens to every function in every publication I subsequently open. I then have to do the re-install, reset registry However, I have publications with script clock which works fine when I open them.
The main thing is that I know how to avoid getting the error. Fault finding just takes too long--having to repeatedly re-install opus and can 'rely' on Opus......until the next time!!

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Sandy,

I recently came across this thread related to Clock objects (has to do with clock working on a page, but not upon returning to that page)
viewtopic.php?t=2922&highlight=clock+timer


Otherwise, have you tried using the Script Console and its Watch feature (Rt Clk is handy there)? Look for things that are 'null' or 'undefined'.

Check the ole' gotcha of names conflicting. Use of same name for multiple objects or for a variable and an object.

The one thing that bites me in the ^ss is the syntax.... not knowing when to put the object identifier in front of a command... eg, String.format("3.1", number) [ not intuitive here ]

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Thanks very much for the link!! Very interesting!!!
I don't want to try it just now, because I'm in the middle of doing some work for a customer and Opus is behaving itself, but as soon as I can, I will try some of the suggestions in the link and some of the things you suggest.

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Sandy,

Are you doing anything in your problem pubs that uses xyz_Object.GetSelectionText( var_or_string ) ??

I was getting various error messages, including that 'function not found...' and 'object not found...'. Bottomline, I solved by removing a PageVar < someTESTvar > from my TextObjectA on the page ( I had done the Insert Variable where I shouldn't have? %#$! ??). Somehow, that <var> seemed to be blocking the scripted operation intended to place some text into that target TextObjectA. And I kept getting error msgs, even though the script seemed to follow the standard examples. [see edit/added below]

( I'm still wrestling to understand these constructs. I find the DW Help files lacking... or perhaps I'm in need of a good Tutorial on the STEPS for setting these things up... what objects to create, what type of vars to use, and where to use/not_use them. Sure amounts to lots of head-scratching. )

The other thing I was doing 'wrong' (and the Help files are clear about) is trying to do something like this.
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var localvar1 = Text_1.SetSelection(23,58) ;
// that either got in the way, or is a 'no-no'

So it seems that command should just be executed, rather than setting some Var equal to it. 'Yes' :idea: :idea: :idea: Light-bulbs going 'on'.

Good luck with your debug.

[ edit/update ] Did some more testing. Apparently having the <inserted var> is not so much of an issue. I've now had success leaving it in the TxtObj along with some extra text typed-in. BTW, my post here is more to the original question and error msgs.

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No, I'm not using anything like that, but it's all interesting stuff.
You will get 'function not found' if you make an error in the syntax and the 'compiler' can't find the function, but in my case, once the fault is triggered, Opus then doesn't recognise any functions... even ones which worked 2 minutes previously. When I have time, I will do some serious investigation.

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Following this thread -- Opus has never given me any problems like the ones mentioned here. I find it quite stable.
You might have installed something that has corrupted part of your operating system.

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I would have said the same thing about Version 5.5, but V6 has been really troublesome at times. I learn to manage it and don't get too irritated when it crashes. Sometimes again and again!! I'm pretty sure it's caused by something I have on my system, or some corruption in the operating system, but what chance is there of finding that?? I'm never going to try to re-install XP. I do regular Registry cleans, etc etc, but this one problem is repeatable, but I can't try faultfinding until I finish off a project I'm doing.

I always find that computers and software are really reliable, until the moment you do something REALLY important. I also have an amazing talent for inducing the strangest problems with software, which is why I'm very good at software testing :-)

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sandyn wrote:
I always find that computers and software are really reliable, until the moment you do something REALLY important. I also have an amazing talent for inducing the strangest problems with software, which is why I'm very good at software testing :-)


Maybe that's the problem -- I test software on different computers than the ones I earn a living with.
If I think XP has a problem -- I reinstall it.
A couple of hours work and things are usually back to normal.

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I would NEVER EVER re-install windows unless I absolutely have to--it's always a disaster for me. :-)

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PostPosted: January 25th, 2008, 12:30 am 
I've never had to re-install Windows XP, but I make sure that I manually set a Restore Point before I try anything out of the ordinary.

The short time spent doing that has paid off on many occasions because unfortunately, I've become wary of the automatic restore points that are supposed to be set :D


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