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 Post subject: Problematic Quizz
PostPosted: December 13th, 2008, 6:26 pm 
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:shock: I have a quizz with 30 questions to multiple choice answers on 4

I make this in Opus Pro XE 5.5.

:lol: Besides the four buttons to answer, the user has the option To correct, confirm the answer,

navigate between the questions, going forward, going back and stop the quiz.

There are hidden objects that are displayed as the response options of the user.

8) When selecting an answer, this is marked on the screen, hiding the other issues, depending on the confirmation to update the Score and go the next issues.

:lol: By verifying the quiz shows the option right or wrong, along with the choice of the user and updates the score,

shows an image confirming hit or error and go the next page.

:) I created variables for each option to answer. Click_A, Click_B, Click_C and Click_D.

:wink: The correct answer adds 1 pt to score. The three wrong keeps the Scorer inalterated.

the user must have the option to browse through the questions, leaving marked an option without confirming to your reply.

:?: How to keep the option Marked the chosen, even So user exchange of a next page?

:?: How to keep the framework of question answered, when the user returns to a page whose outcome already been confirmed?

:!: Please, anybody help me. Thanks! :roll:


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PostPosted: December 13th, 2008, 11:03 pm 
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I created variables for each option to answer. Click_A, Click_B, Click_C and Click_D.
You do not say what type of variable.

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Question How to keep the option Marked the chosen, even So user exchange of a next page?


One basic factor to pay attention to is the type of variable you create and use. "Page variable" only applies to the current page. When you leave this page and return, the 'page variable' is either undefined value, or set to the default value you specified.

You can use "Publication variable" as well. That will retain its value when going across to different pages. Of course you may change the value on later pages, but if you did that change and went back to original page -- you have to make sure that's what you want to happen.

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Do you care if all the user's work is erased when he quits the Pub? Are you saving scores or answers to a file or other 'permanent' record?

If so:
There are some good 'starters' in the Tutorial section of Forum. (belogged in to see attached files)

Also, for other helpful Forum posts... do a Search (all terms) user input

You will get useful info such as:

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http://www.digitalgrapevine.info/viewtopic.php?t=2688&highlight=user+input


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In any case, saving to file or not, you may want to use a Set of variables that store the "Committed answers" and other variables that accept the "penciled-in answers".

You can also apply Actions that disable buttons for a question once you want to close off choices. See "sample pubs" Quiz (with Opus v6, maybe with v5.5).

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 Post subject: Problematic Quizz 02
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 5:34 am 
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:D Thanks for your reply, Lar_123.

I used page variables with the value 1 to correct answer and 0 for the wrong answers. This is the point added in score marker on the right top of the screen.

If I were used publication variables, would keep these values, because the answers are alternating between the letters A, B, C and D.
How to name the four variables that will be repeated on 30 issues, while maintaining its values different page after page, as the right answer?

:? I Do not keep precise figures for the answer to disk, since the end of the 30 questions, the user has a count of your scores, Including the percentages of correct and incorrect questions answered.

:) I used the option to disable objects too, appears when the final frame
as the screen and also confirmed response and to the user
did not have a choice of several responses at the same time.

:? Finally, the page always returns to its original state when the user clicks the button to back again, as if the user had not done any choice
and also missed frame of confirmed of the response chosen.

:shock: I need to find a way to keep the options Performed by the user saved and on the screen, when the page is consulted again user click in boton
return, or that the page be excluded from the quizz after confirming the answer.

thanking cooperation and waiting for suggestions... :wink:


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PostPosted: December 15th, 2008, 1:02 am 
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from the Help file
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Persistent option

This option is only available when you create a Page variable:

When ticked the current value of the Page variable is stored when the user moves to another page. When not ticked, the value is reset to the Initial Value when moving to another page.


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Finally, the page always returns to its original state when the user clicks the button to back again, as if the user had not done any choice

Data values are pretty easy to 'save' and redisplay. Many different ways to do with variables, etc. Saving 'states' is another matter. There's no easy answer... For example, you say "there are Hidden objects displayed...". You pretty much have to run some code or actions when the Page loads (OnShow trigger) to set that object1.Show() or object1.Hide().

It's a similar story for all else you want to control. Opus has a great bunch of features. Take a look at Radio Buttons... for mutually exclusive choices.

You may find some people have done similar things... do a Search on the forum for other Posts for specific pieces of the project. Check out the Showcase category in Forum too.... some good examples there.

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There are three ways which come to mind, but...as always in Opus there will be other ways.
Basically, you want to store the page configuration as you move around your publication.
You can....
1 Write the configuration to the registry...not very nice for this application
2 Write the configuration to a an INI file.....best method I think?
3 Write the configuration to a database...INI file is just a database, so why create a seperate one?

I used the following method in a configuration set-up screen so a user could select various things to display...or not display.

I used SetINIFileData and GetINIFileData, but it takes a lot of work...and it's been about a year since I did it, so it's a blur!! however look in the Opus script help. An INI file entry has a SECTION, KEY and VALUE, so it's ideal for this.

here is a chunk of code from my program for setting the data, then the corresponding get .



Code:
SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "Time", ShowTime);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "IP", ShowPower);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "Used", ShowTotal);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "CO2", ShowCO2);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Name", MyUnit);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "LeftPic", MyPic1);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "CentrePic", MyPic2);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "RightPic", MyPic3);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "CO2Const", Const);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title1", Title1);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title2", Title2);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title3", Title3);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontType", MyFontType);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontSize", MyFontSize);
      SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontColour", MyFontColour);



GetINIFileData


Code:
ShowTime=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "Time")
ShowPower=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "IP");
ShowTotal=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "Used");
ShowCO2=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "Show", "CO2");
MyUnit=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Name");
MyPic1=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "LeftPic");
MyPic2=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "CentrePic");
MyPic3=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "RightPic");
Title1=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title1");
Title2=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title2");
Title3=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "Title3");
MyFontType=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontType");
MyFontSize=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontSize");
MyFontColour=GetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "ECConfig.ini", "System", "MyFontColour");




However....this only stores/ retrieves the configuration, you then have to recreate all the button settings etc , so you have to use Button.SetState(true).......(false) to set up buttons on the page to re-create the saved configuration.

Sorry it's not in more detail, but it should point you to one way of doing it.

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PostPosted: December 15th, 2008, 6:44 pm 
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Thanks Lar_123 and sandyn for your valuable help. Let show how it works:

I have four buttons to answer that shows four objectives in the red circles as user choice.

These four red circles are hidden through the initially hidden propierties in the General tab of the object.

when you click a button (a, b, c or d), a red ring around each match

and displayed as a button and e chosen the same time, disabled the other buttons remaining.

corrects the button again enables the buttons of choice, erasing

the ring of the response chosen by the user.

confirms the button keeps the letter chosen by the user, shows

the correct answer and add a point where the user has set

the answer, or to score any points if the answer was wrong.

after that, comes a frame on top of the field a question and answer,

showing that the question was answered at the same time that disables

the options of the buttons a, b, c, d and confirms fixes.

There is a frame with a green mark for correct answers and a frame with

red mark lost to answer.

how to keep this framework after leaving the page and return it?

This frame is on the top page hidden by default initially hidden

in general propierties of the object.

Appreciate your suggestions on how to attach variables red circle,

so that they continue to be displayed if the user does not confirm the

answer and also how to attach the end of the tables variables chosen

response to they continue to be displayed on the page, after the user

complete the answer.

in general propierties of the object. the four red circle on the option to

answer too.


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PostPosted: December 15th, 2008, 11:33 pm 
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You might find it simpler and more direct to have just ONE red circle, and then simply MOVE it vertically in 0.0sec. You can even move it off page rather than hide/show.

That way, at the same time you store A,B,C... choice made, you can set a Y-coord value for the circle. It can be a Page var/persistent I think.

( you could change the line colour of circle when the selection is locked-in )

good luck.

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 Post subject: Fix problems
PostPosted: December 16th, 2008, 1:06 am 
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Thanks Lar_123.

Well, I have 4 red circles, but just show one after user click,

precisely that which is in the response chosen by the user.

My problem is fix the red circle on show, if user move back ou forward in

the pages.

this red circle around the ball with the letter serves to remind the user of

their chosen response, which can be changed or confirmed after the user

click the button confirm or when the user back to page to close the

question.

I need fix the framework that was shown after the response confirmed too,

because the user needs to navigate in pages of quizz.

This framework, when it is shown, disables the buttons to answer and

confirmed that the issue is no longer available.

Thanks for patience.


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 Post subject: Problematic quizz 04
PostPosted: December 19th, 2008, 9:23 am 
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:D Hi...

:( Any suggestions? Let staff, help me, please...

8) well, I will summarize the goal of programming!

:arrow: 30 questions - a variable for each issue

:arrow: 4 answers classified by letters - A, B, C and D

:arrow: one marked by the user (correct = 1 point or incorrect = 0 point)

user goes back and the issues through buttons move forward or backward,

user clicks on the button of the letter, marking answer chosen

:arrow: page retains information with the answer selected user

in the latest issue (30) user clicks on the button confirms,

based on the variable response to each question marked (right or wrong)

:arrow: Final score shows scores based on user choices

:?: :idea: Someone who qualifies to the challenge? :?: :idea:


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Attached is a very basic Pub which shows how you can save a page configuration using an INI file.

When you run the publication, you will see three buttons. GO TO PAGE 2...SHOW and HIDE.

Click on Show or Hide to show or hide the red circle. Then click on the GO TO PAGE 2 button. You will see that when you return to Page 1, it remembers if the circle was shown or not.
You can also quit the publication and re-load.


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Thanks Sandyn.
I will analyze your work for understanding and hope to use the programming in my quizz.
I need to configure anything here first, because I get a new computer and can not wait the time to analyze what you sent me, which I believe now, a raw material ...
I will give news soon, even grateful.


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:D Okay, Sandyn... let's more in depth ...

:( I did not understand your programming, has errors in my pc.

I think we need something more planned, better structured, with a schedule more refined.

:wink: I leave here the attached file, for your review.
There are three pages containing the objects divided into three layers,
as the need to show them to user.

If you can solve the problem in question, determine the return on the user page, keeping the red circle of the issue chosen, or the table confirmed
answered the question, will be of great help.

:roll: There is yet another challenge, the Start button, click it to the user, begins to count the time of the test, which runs through the digital clock and the red slider at the top.
The slider mark the total time of the test, ending in an hour and half, the digital clock marks the time of the issue at the end of 90 seconds.
If the user does not answer the question, enter the screen the next question.

:P Thank you and look forward.


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I have modified your quiz to save the selection of page 1 only, It will give you an idea of how it can be done. Sorry the programming is not very elegant, but I just did it quickly to show how you can do it.

I see that you don't use scripting. My solution mainly uses scripting, but it's quite straighforward.


Basically each time you select an answer button, it writes to an INI file and stores the user selection.

If the user selects Button A, this code is attached to the actions on button A.

The first three lines ensures B,C and D are hidden (is only necessary, because the user can exit the pub and can select a different answer and two selections are shown, but this can be error trapped in another way)

The User selects button A, so 'Answers', 'ButtonA' is set to "true"...the others are set to "false" (belt and braces)

Code:
Mst_Rp_Select_B.Hide()
Mst_Rp_Select_C.Hide()
Mst_Rp_Select_D.Hide()

SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonA", "true");
SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonB", "false");
SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonC", "false");
SetINIFileData( SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonD", "false"); 


When Page 1 loads, this script is added to an 'ON SHOW' trigger

it gets the information from the INI file. Then shows the correct red circle.


The IF statments then SHOWS the correct circle....this should be done with IF/ELSE, but it will show you the general idea.

Code:

ButtonAVis=GetINIFileData(SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonA")
ButtonBVis=GetINIFileData(SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonB")
ButtonCVis=GetINIFileData(SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonC")
ButtonDVis=GetINIFileData(SYSTEM_PUBLICATION_DIR + "Page1Status.ini", "Answers", "ButtonD")

if(ButtonAVis=="true")
{
   Mst_Rp_Select_A.Show()
}

if(ButtonBVis=="true")
{
   Mst_Rp_Select_B.Show()
}

if(ButtonCVis=="true")
{
   Mst_Rp_Select_C.Show()
}

if(ButtonDVis=="true")
{
   Mst_Rp_Select_D.Show()
}



If you adopt this approach, you will have to create a generalised function which can be called each time a user selects a button. This would involve a lot of work to create, but it's much better than having to repeat the same code on every page.


Sandy


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I thought the file didn't attach in the last message...here it is again, but now after a couple of minutes, it shows....oh well !


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:shock: Sandyn, you are the Guy!!!!

I am very happy to see these lines written by your person in this topic,

I confess that you have been the light at the end of this dark tunnel. There are still doubts, many doubts, but you're there, as a brilliant vagalume to show the output.

I appreciate their dedication and time involved in this work. Very grateful!

I do not know almost nothing of scripts, but I confess that I am thrilled to see that many things can be done this way, programming really is everything!

I tell you more times I will be analyzing and esperimenting this code.
As far as I am a layman in the subject, just the basic, and most of my forays have been in actionscript.

I do not understand terms like System_publication_Diretory, it will work with the publication running CD-ROM?

The ini file of the publication can be written in temporary directory
of the user's computer?

And adapt this code to control 30 questions, 120 responses, final score ...
Many, many tests to order, by way ...

:D Very, very grateful!!!

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