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Dear All,

I accidentally published this in the turorials section. Sorry. I've been using Opus 6 for about a year now and am slowly learning what is possible.

I recently came across what seemed an excellent feature for tests which is the Next Random goto page. Whilst it works faultlessly first time you use it, if you go back to a menu and select the test again, it starts to duplicate questions. I've tried looking through the posts in the forum and tried various reset options but have not been able to resolve the problem.

Has anyone else come across this, and more importantly, has anyone been able to resolve it?

Many thanks to anyone who reads this.

Regards

Simon

Opus Pro 6
Acer Aspire 5051
AMD Turion 1.6GHz
2GB RAM
XP SP2

Dear All,

I should have posted this with the original message. It's a very simple test which highlights the problem of the Next Random Page. If you repeat the test several times, it becomes apparent that questions are repeating. I'm still not any closer to resolving this problem, but I do think it should be by introducing a string into the scripting which is starting to be a bit more advanced that I currently am on Opus.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Regards

Simon

Opus Pro 6
Acer Aspire 5051
AMD Turion 1.6GHz
2GB RAM
XP SP2

Simon

The same question appears each time but a different page appears as should happen if you employ the next random variable.

Unfortunately, uploading your executable does not all me or anyone else to see how you have constructed your publication and so I cannot offer any advice as to what may be the problem.

Please upload your imp file and then we can take a peek at how you have constructed your publication and maybe find a solution for you.

Cheers

Graham

Graham,

Thanks for the reply. Apologies for not uploading the original file, which I've now attached. As you can see, I'm new to the message board.

I kept the question and answers the same purely for speed, but changed the question numbers so that it highlights repeating questions, most notably question 1.

I look forward to any replies.

Regards

Simon

Opus Pro 6
Acer Aspire 5051
AMD Turion 1.6GHz
2GB RAM
XP SP2

You need to change the goto on Q1 to GotoRandomPage().

This creates an initial pool from which the next random is drawn. By only using the next random on all the pages, Opus is simply trying to draw from the same pool.

Mack

Many thanks Mack!

I've been trying to look for a more complicated answer when it was there in the functions already.

Once again many thanks for those who have looked at this.

Regards

Simon

Opus Pro 6
Acer Aspire 5051
AMD Turion 1.6GHz
2GB RAM
XP SP2

Simon

You could include a page in chapter two which merely has a frame which 'onshow' goes to next random.

That way, the test candidate will not see the frame page and will only see a random page which occurs instead of your current set up which always shows question page 1.

Cheers

Graham

Graham,

Many thanks for yours and Macks advice. I'm sure other beginners will find it very useful, after all I am a trainer and not a technical person. You've probably realised.

My next challenge is to rotate the lcations of the answers in a random manner which I look forward to, as I found quite a few new applications in trying to resolve the last one. That is unless anyone has an easy answer of course.

Looking forward to any answers resolving the next issue and hope I can be of help in future (quite a few years yet) to others.

Regards

Simon

Hi Simon,

That one's not quite as easy but still very possible.

For a non-programmer, I would suggest using multi-frames to hold variations of answer position and then randomly selecting a multiframe element.

Mack

Hi Mack,

Many thanks for that. I've got help from the publication "Hidden Word" from the forum. What I've done is to create multiple frames with the answers in different positions as you suggest. They are all initially hidden. I've then created a number variable called HIDDEN_QUESTIONS. The page has an action On Show, where I've used the Random function linked to HIDDEN_QUESTIONS and show a different frame for each case.

It does appear long winded, but it does look great!

Once again, many thanks.

Regards

Simon

When I needed to build a quiz with an answer in a random position, I simply used a Text Object with four or five WRONG answers, then I created a second, floating Text Object with the CORRECT answer. This Text Object must have a solid color background to prevent seeing what's behind it.

When the multiple choice question Page appears, the correct answer covers one of the incorrect text answers. The possible answers (A, B, C, D, E) each had a constant numeric value determined by their Vertical stacked position (e.g. A=550, B=570, C=590, etc). If the answer given was "C", then I used an IF Statement to compare "590" to the current postion of the correct answer. If they matched, then the answer was correct, if not, then it was the wrong answer. I either increased my
Correct Variable and displayed a "Correct Answer" Text Object, or I'd display a "Sorry, that is incorrect" Text Object.