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 Post subject: "Go To Page" works for some buttons, does not on o
PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 7:12 pm 
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Hello,
The project I'm working on is presenting me with an odd problem. I have one text object that serves as a "Go To Page" button, and I copied it to all the pages of my publication. Well, it works fine on about half the pages, but not the other half, and it is the exact same button. On half the pages, you actually have to click the border of the text button in order to get it to work.

I have attached a very abbreviated version of my project; it has three pages:

(1)Menu
(2)Creating An ID Record (button works properly)
(3)Speed Logs (button does not work properly)

The button in question is the "back to previous cue card" button.

Here is what I think is the root of my problems. I originally created the project with a height of 560, and created several pages with that height. However, as I proceeded, I realized I needed a little more space, so I changed it to 580. Well, when I went to paste the button, on several pages it wouldn't paste to the exact location in which I needed it (that extra 20 pixels at the bottom of the page); I would have to go into properties and manually change the numbers of the position and height to make it show up where I wanted it to. For an example of what I am talking about, do the following:

(1)Delete the "back to previous cue card" button on the SpeedLogs page.
(2)Copy the same button from the Creating An ID Record page.
(3)Paste it onto the SpeedLogs page. It will paste right above the bottom 20 pixels, not in the proper spot.

If one of ya'll could take a gander at the pages, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mike


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 Post subject: UPDATE
PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 7:33 pm 
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UPDATE:

I went into publication properties just to make doubly sure that I had changed the height to 580 in the chapter properties. I had. However, just for kicks, I changed the height again, this time to 600, saved, then changed it back to 580 and saved.

Then I tried it and it still didn't work.

So I deleted a non-working button, copied a button that was working, then pasted on to the page that needed it. It pasted in the spot it should this time, and that button now works.

However, it didn't work on the second page on which I tried it.

So, what I am going to do is go change the chapter publication height back to 600 again, and then when I've got everything pasted, change it back to 580.

This is strange.


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PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 7:55 pm 
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The last step in the previous update didn't work, either.

What I am having to do is open each page, then change the chapter height to 600, click Apply, then change it back to 580. Then it works - for the page that was open. Then I have to go into each page and follow the exact same procedure.


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PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 10:02 pm 
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Gidday
Your publication seems to work well after flattening the layers.
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 Post subject: Backward not Previous
PostPosted: March 15th, 2006, 10:53 pm 
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I only had a moment to try to understand what you are doing with your Cue Cards project. It seems, for demonstration purposes you only have two Pages plus the opening Menu.

Please take a look at your "Back to Previous Cue Card" Button. In the Actions you are using "Go to Page <Previous>". You ONLY use "Previous" for special situations, for example, if you had 20 Pages of material and Page #21 was a HELP screen. Imagine having a Master Page which had a "Help" Button with a Go To Page 21 Action. Once you go to the Help Page, you want to be able to return to the Page from which you came, so then you would use Previous. Otherwise use <Backward> to go back one Page in your presentation.

When you try to Preview a Page which has a Button using "Previous" nothing will happen when you Click it, because you haven't come from a Page in order to return to it.

Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Backward not Previous
PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 12:04 am 
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demofred wrote:
I only had a moment to try to understand what you are doing with your Cue Cards project. It seems, for demonstration purposes you only have two Pages plus the opening Menu.

Please take a look at your "Back to Previous Cue Card" Button. In the Actions you are using "Go to Page <Previous>". You ONLY use "Previous" for special situations, for example, if you had 20 Pages of material and Page #21 was a HELP screen. Imagine having a Master Page which had a "Help" Button with a Go To Page 21 Action. Once you go to the Help Page, you want to be able to return to the Page from which you came, so then you would use Previous. Otherwise use <Backward> to go back one Page in your presentation.

When you try to Preview a Page which has a Button using "Previous" nothing will happen when you Click it, because you haven't come from a Page in order to return to it.

Hope this helps.


Hi Fred,
Thanks for replying.

My actual project has about 20 pages, I just included 2 to upload here. the reason I use the "previous" action is because several of the cue cards contain hypertext links to other cue cards, and I wanted the user to be able to go back to the original cue card after viewing the one that was hypertexted to. Also, when I preview these cards, there always is a previous page, because I always start at the menu and then click to go the cue card; that way, the menu is the previous page.
Thanks,
Mike


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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 12:09 am 
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Graham Baglin wrote:
Gidday
Your publication seems to work well after flattening the layers.
Cheers
Graham


You're right. I wonder why that is?

I think the whole "layers" thing still has some kinks in it; I mean using components and layers in conjunction is a big mess.

Thanks,
Mike


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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 1:12 am 
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Mike

I don't think layers is a big mess as you say.

If you use layers in say Photoshop, you have to flatten them to finish off whatever you are doing.

As I understand it, layers are provided in Opus to enable easier publication building. Whilst I am not absolutely sure, I think you have to flatten your layers before you publish to ensure completion and proper functionality.

The main thing is that your publication now works and I recon that's pretty important! :D

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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 4:09 am 
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Graham Baglin wrote:
Mike

I don't think layers is a big mess as you say.

If you use layers in say Photoshop, you have to flatten them to finish off whatever you are doing.


I don't think everything about layers is a mess; I really like having layers because I like to be able to hide things from view while I'm working on others. But they seem to be causing some problems, expecially with copying and pasting and dragging components onto them - that's the "big mess" part.

If you flatten layers, is there a way to "unflatten" them when you need to work on the project again?

Thanks,
Mike


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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 4:55 am 
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Hello again Mike

The only way to unflatten them that I know of is to use the Edit, undo command (Ctrl + Z)

The problem is that Undo only keeps track of what you are doing in the current session. If you flatten and then save your work, close Opus and then reopen Opus at a later date, and try to undo the flattening, you won't be able to.

Oh well, software these days is a heck of a lot better than it once was when there was no undo at all! :shock:

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PostPosted: March 16th, 2006, 6:52 am 
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Graham Baglin wrote:

Oh well, software these days is a heck of a lot better than it once was when there was no undo at all! :shock:

Cheers

Graham


Isn't that the truth!

Don't get me wrong; I'm not trying to slam Opus when I say that using components in conjunction with layers is a mess. I've been using Illuminatus Opus since 4.51, and I love it.


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